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Bohemians, Cybernetics, History, Prodigies

  • Apr. 3rd, 2003 at 8:31 PM
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I recently read Seigel's Bohemian Paris, and as I read it, I alternately wished I was Bohemian and another part of me raged that the entire "Life as Art" idea is a cop out and I just wanted to yell "poser" in my best seventh grader whine. What is ‘hip’ anyway, and what is art, and what did it matter. In so many ways, it was all devastatingly romantic to starve and be artistic and intellectual and Dadaist. In other ways, the inner capitalist in me wanted to scream, "Get a real job!" I was terribly disappointed in myself.

Then I read Norbert Wiener’s God & Golem, Inc. last night, and I wish I could articulate the revelations I had. Yes, I have been familiar with the "cyborg’s right to life" movement, and the age of spiritual machines etc. But to hear it from Wiener’s perspective from 1948 through 1964 was very exciting for me. He was speaking from a time when it was discovered that just as God created the Devil, and could actually lose to his own creation, so had man in making of the machine. Perhaps a simplistic realisation, but for me, it was still exciting. I remember at pop!tech when a speaker was discussing "at what point is a person no longer human, but more machine than human?" I was especially interested in the distinctions at that time.

I grew so terribly interested in Wiener that I just checked out one of his autobiographies, Ex-Prodigy: My Childhood and Youth. In the first chapter (Which is as far as I’ve gotten) he discusses how he finished high school when he was 12 and received his Ph.D. when he was 19 from Harvard. He is most interested in the moral difficulties that any prodigy has in integration into society, and fulfilment of expectations of society, and how easy it is for a prodigy to assume failure for himself after society has moved their ever-fickle interest onto the next prodigy. While I was never a genius in that sense, I was always rather smart and I always had high expectations for myself, and in a lot of ways, I’ve let myself down. My rising wasn’t as dramatic by any means to Dr.Wiener’s, but I do sympathise deeply

In addition, I have been keeping a post-it in Foucault’s Pendulum for two days for this quote:
And Diotallevi kept interjecting, sententiously: "Historia magistra vitae." To which Belbo responded: "Come on, cabalists don’t believe in history." And Diotallevi invariably answered: "That’s just the point. Everything is repeated, in a circle. History is a master because it teaches us that it doesn’t exist. It’s the permutations that matter."


And then, From "What is Cybernetics" by G.T. Guilbaud:
The word is derived from the Greek kybernētikē, which means, literally, the art of steersmanship. It belongs to a big family of words for the arts, crafts and sciences (all embraced by the single Greek term technai) which incliude medicine, education, poetry, mathematics, and mechanics. The word occurs fairly often in Plato, both in this literal sense and in the metaphorical sense of the art of guiding men in society, i.e. the art of government.
From this root were derived such Latin words as gubernaculum, a helm, and gubernator, a helmsman. These too, frequently carried the metaphorical meaning, a polotical helmsman steering the ship of state, which in some cases, indeed, became the predominant significance of the word.

Comments

[info]lettucethink wrote:
Apr. 3rd, 2003 06:25 pm (UTC)
[info]kiad wrote:
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:53 am (UTC)
Tweet!
[info]mwshook wrote:
Apr. 3rd, 2003 10:35 pm (UTC)
I'm growing tired of the concept of intelligent computers. I've never seen a computer that can even do it's intended job properly. It seems a computer would have to work correctly before it could become intelligent ;-)

The gubernaculum is also the ligament that pulls the testicle down into the scrotum during fetal development. I never knew what the Latin meant. :-)

I reccommend staying away from the Bohemian life. I know a life without a concrete purpose would rot my soul. If the capitalist in you is screaming "get a job" the communist in you should be screaming it harder. Why do modern Marxists so rarely *produce* anything?
[info]kiad wrote:
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:56 am (UTC)
Re: "It seems a computer would have to work correctly before it could become intelligent"

Can I then deduce that you think that the entire human race is un-intelligent? Especially when it comes to love or science or even just understanding our place it? Perhaps then, computers are already close to human.

I love that fact that you knew what the gubernaculum was. You and me, kid.

A life without purpose would rot anyone's soul; but they did have purpose, it was to live their lives entirely as art. One could say that did *produce* something.
[info]jgambrell wrote:
Apr. 9th, 2003 09:37 pm (UTC)
Ripple in a pond.
Mew?
[info]kiad wrote:
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:57 am (UTC)
Re: Ripple in a pond.
indeed.
[info]angel_electric wrote:
Apr. 15th, 2003 12:08 pm (UTC)
feeling particularly convinced. that i’m not at all the first to so exclaim:

but i’m stunned by the beauty of your journal. it really is an Extreme Case. it radiates such high levels of artistry, composure, (a kind of – stillness) ... i can only falter for appropriate adjectives here. let me then just simply say the words:

appreciation. gratitude.
[info]kiad wrote:
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:58 am (UTC)
I am so pleased by your comment- I haven't worked on my journal for over a year now, but I did spend a little time in birthing it.

I am glad you are around to read it. Thank you.